I've experimented a bit with PlugIM but not enough to take many conclusions. PlugIM is very tech savvy and if articles are not all about technology they can get very much ignored there. Even so the traffic coming from there is not much, it's worth to submit for the link...
Tinu
· 2 years ago
This is awesome that you're back on Plug IM because for some reason that's where I used to follow you.
As far as why you were discontinued, when this happened to me this month it was because my feed was broken - Just ask Ryan about it directly, he can probably help you fix it.
I get traffic from PlugIM, but often it's hidden traffic, where my bumpzee traffic is apparent in my stats.
Quite a bit of the time, traffic from PlugIM may show up as feed traffic, which will give you no referring link in your stats. At most you'll know that someone found you through a feed, which is treated in stats like a bookmark. Two things that made a difference for me were actively participating in the community and checking up now and then that my feed validates. I'm doing a series about them this weekend.
The widget also helps.
As far as PlugIM outraning your content, try thinking of it another way -- that page about your content leads back to your content, so you'll still get the visibility. With content increasingly becoming decentralized from particular sites, it's no so much about getting that visitor on your site right away as it is getting them into your content stream where ever it is across the web - ultimately all roads lead back to you. The best test would be to try it for a week and see if you get an increase that you can't otherwise account for.
Vlad
· 2 years ago
@Tinu
"ultimately all roads lead back to you"
Can't be put any better. I think that eventually when SE recognize that your blog is the original source it gives you credit for that. at least Google does. I have noticed this with BumpZee- because it gets visited by Google so often my posts there get indexed before they do on my blog. But when the Google indexes them, the ranking shifts and my blog moves up for my articles.
Tinu
· 2 years ago
Yeah, it's very "cycle of life". I remember the days when I used to rack my brains and worry about that stuff, and ultimately if I make sure the content is published on my site first, it all comes out in the wash. :)
CFernandes
· 2 years ago
Hi, I also use PlugIM but I have to admit I do not get much traffic from them either...
Vlad
· 2 years ago
@CFERNANDES
Well I really did not think PlugIM can deliver much when it come to traffic. I also noticed there is really a lot of moderation that takes place there..... I hope Ryan finds time for sleep...lol Every single entry is queued for moderation. I think they may have better success if they let just "plugs" to be real moderation system. But then there is no mechanism to voice your opinion if you dislike a particular entry. Why copy "Digg" and leave out "burry" option?
Anyway, I will give it another few days. But I am not as impressed as I am (was) and will be with BumpZee
comedy magician
· 2 years ago
I have never heard of PlugIM. Are there a lot of people using it?
Ryan Knowles
· 2 years ago
Hey Vlad, glad to have you back. Actually there isn't any moderation on PlugIM. Every post goes live in the queue the second it's posted in the newly submitted section: http://www.plugim.com/view/all/queued Obviously if something is blatantly spam, it'll get deleted but we do also have a burry option as well. Right next to every story you'll notice a drop down that says "problem?" Just select the problem with the story and instead of plugging it, you've dumped it.
MorganLighter
· 2 years ago
Vlad - Hang tough, buddy. What I was going to write has already been posted by Ryan Knowles, and when you have heard two or more people say the same thing, well, you should know you're not being b.s.'ed. Take care. P.S. I think PlugIM is the cat's pajamas!
Vlad
· 2 years ago
Ryan, Thanks for straighten me out on "bury" option. I guess I need to spend more time around PlugIM. Just the fact that you do not use "nofollow" on the links get my support!
Morgan, Thanks for stopping by. I am sure after I ind my way around, I will like PlugIM more.ukraine
ben
· 2 years ago
I used it once did have much impact and when I was reshuffling my looks on my blog I suddenly just decided to take it out :/
Stephen Cronin
· 2 years ago
I've just signed up for PlugIM. Actually I've been subcribed to their feed for a month - I just didn't signup or submit any of my stuff (not sure why). Your post was the clincher for me to actually sign up.
One thing I noticed with the feed: there's a fair bit of spam in there (maybe 1 in 10). I guess these things have been deleted or buried on the site itself, but my feed reader picks them up before this happens.
Given that PlugIM is nonofollow and quite prominent, I'm a little worried about this getting worse.
Vlad
· 2 years ago
Stephen, I do not see how the "nonofollow" will affect your website. The PlugIM points no-nofollow links to your website too.
I have to be honest that neither Sphinn not PlugIM never grew on me. I am contemplating going only with BumpZee. I have also noticed few issues with PlugIM plugin affecting my server's resources. I think I will try to go with least possible plugins in the future.
Stephen Cronin
· 2 years ago
Vlad, sorry I wasn't talking about it affecting my website - I just meant that PlugIM will become a bigger target for spam. When I read the PlugIM feed, there are spam entries in the feed. With the Bumpzee feed there is no spam.
Maybe the PlugIM model with everything going live the instant it is posted is the problem. Sure spam posts can be deleted later, or buried, so they are no longer on the site, but feed readers have already grabbed the spam. I don't know the solution, I'm just pointing out the problem.
Vlad
· 2 years ago
Stephen,
I am not that familiar with PlugIM and how do they work around the spam.
I know that majority of Bloggers at BumpZee are marketing oriented and hate spam with passion- maybe that where the main difference is.
Once your blog is approved on BumpZee, your feed is grabbed automatically. But I think the spammy websites have low chances of being approved by BumpZee.
From time to time you will get a spam message on BumpZee via private/public messages, but Scott Jangro is on top of things there. Often by the time you check the spam message, it has bee la ready detected as such and deleted.
I guess every community/website that has that is "no-nofollow" needs to put more effort in fighting spam.
Pawel
· 11 months ago
Did anyone notice that Plugim has some problems lately. For the last 2 weeks you couldn't submit anything. When you try to submit a story they have some SQL error. Looks like nobody is working on it so they might be going down soon.
Vlad Zablotskyy
· 11 months ago
Pawel,
I have not used PlugIm in ages. I actually have forgotten I wrote about them.
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As far as why you were discontinued, when this happened to me this month it was because my feed was broken - Just ask Ryan about it directly, he can probably help you fix it.
I get traffic from PlugIM, but often it's hidden traffic, where my bumpzee traffic is apparent in my stats.
Quite a bit of the time, traffic from PlugIM may show up as feed traffic, which will give you no referring link in your stats. At most you'll know that someone found you through a feed, which is treated in stats like a bookmark. Two things that made a difference for me were actively participating in the community and checking up now and then that my feed validates. I'm doing a series about them this weekend.
The widget also helps.
As far as PlugIM outraning your content, try thinking of it another way -- that page about your content leads back to your content, so you'll still get the visibility. With content increasingly becoming decentralized from particular sites, it's no so much about getting that visitor on your site right away as it is getting them into your content stream where ever it is across the web - ultimately all roads lead back to you. The best test would be to try it for a week and see if you get an increase that you can't otherwise account for.
"ultimately all roads lead back to you"
Can't be put any better. I think that eventually when SE recognize that your blog is the original source it gives you credit for that. at least Google does. I have noticed this with BumpZee- because it gets visited by Google so often my posts there get indexed before they do on my blog. But when the Google indexes them, the ranking shifts and my blog moves up for my articles.
I also use PlugIM but I have to admit I do not get much traffic from them either...
Well I really did not think PlugIM can deliver much when it come to traffic. I also noticed there is really a lot of moderation that takes place there..... I hope Ryan finds time for sleep...lol Every single entry is queued for moderation. I think they may have better success if they let just "plugs" to be real moderation system. But then there is no mechanism to voice your opinion if you dislike a particular entry. Why copy "Digg" and leave out "burry" option?
Anyway, I will give it another few days. But I am not as impressed as I am (was) and will be with BumpZee
Thanks for straighten me out on "bury" option. I guess I need to spend more time around PlugIM. Just the fact that you do not use "nofollow" on the links get my support!
Morgan,
Thanks for stopping by. I am sure after I ind my way around, I will like PlugIM more.ukraine
One thing I noticed with the feed: there's a fair bit of spam in there (maybe 1 in 10). I guess these things have been deleted or buried on the site itself, but my feed reader picks them up before this happens.
Given that PlugIM is nonofollow and quite prominent, I'm a little worried about this getting worse.
I do not see how the "nonofollow" will affect your website. The PlugIM points no-nofollow links to your website too.
I have to be honest that neither Sphinn not PlugIM never grew on me. I am contemplating going only with BumpZee. I have also noticed few issues with PlugIM plugin affecting my server's resources. I think I will try to go with least possible plugins in the future.
Maybe the PlugIM model with everything going live the instant it is posted is the problem. Sure spam posts can be deleted later, or buried, so they are no longer on the site, but feed readers have already grabbed the spam. I don't know the solution, I'm just pointing out the problem.
I am not that familiar with PlugIM and how do they work around the spam.
I know that majority of Bloggers at BumpZee are marketing oriented and hate spam with passion- maybe that where the main difference is.
Once your blog is approved on BumpZee, your feed is grabbed automatically. But I think the spammy websites have low chances of being approved by BumpZee.
From time to time you will get a spam message on BumpZee via private/public messages, but Scott Jangro is on top of things there. Often by the time you check the spam message, it has bee la ready detected as such and deleted.
I guess every community/website that has that is "no-nofollow" needs to put more effort in fighting spam.
I have not used PlugIm in ages. I actually have forgotten I wrote about them.